They get the major appt at the start of the GT which is why I think they're going to pull the GT card some time in the not too distant future, as it'll allow them to exert more 'authority' over the flock. Hence the reason why they've been saying be ready to do whatever we tell you to do. It's like they not only bought themselves more time, they've bought themselves more power and control. And what that's probably going to mean is the message (ha) will change to a judgment warning. Which buys them even more time. This could easily be dragged on for another hundred years. It really depends on who's in charge at any given time and what's going on both in the organization (financially/politically) and in the world.
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So are the GB now saying that they are NOT the "faithful and discreet slave"?
by stuckinarut2 inso can someone clarify this please?.
the claim has been made that the gb is the faithful and discreet slave.
especially was this highlighted during the agm (when the silver bible was released).. but are they now saying that this "appointment" isn't happening until the "great tribulation"?.
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I really really hate this religion
by BlackSwan of Memphis ingetting back here, getting on to some fb groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with.
i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but i have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion.
not on this level.
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I really really hate this religion
by BlackSwan of Memphis ingetting back here, getting on to some fb groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with.
i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but i have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion.
not on this level.
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The stories, the heartbreak, the pain.
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I really really hate this religion
by BlackSwan of Memphis ingetting back here, getting on to some fb groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with.
i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but i have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion.
not on this level.
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getting back here, getting on to some FB groups and reading stories, meeting new people it's mind blowing the callous crap that these men are allowed to get away with. i mean i get that religion in general can be considered bad all around, but I have friends who are religious and no, none of them have seen this type of callous disregard for humanity come from religion. Not on this level.
it's heartbreaking. I'm lucky. I had two of my kids before I left, a non-JW husband w non-JW family. I struggled, sure. But i had support.
So many of these people flat out don't have support.
This is just wrong on so many levels.
To those of you who are struggling to get through, questioning and scared....
You're not alone. You are so not alone.
Reach out and look for a local group. For those who simply can't.... I'm so glad that this place exists.
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Is it Time to Declare that The Great Tribulation Has Started ?
by OnTheWayOut ini don't really engage in doctrinal discussions about jw's anymore.
they seem to say some pretty crazy stuff.
but i have read some threads discussing doctrinal changes and how watchtower is really out of ideas and money at the same time.
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Flipper, exactly, this is some weird stuff.
And they don't give two squats about their members.
The creepy thing is that they have far more money than these other half wit cults.
But as it comes out that they are just that - a cult - what will they do? What are they preparing to do?
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Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?
by BlackSwan of Memphis inwasn't sure where to put this but .... .
so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?
the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.
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Oh man, I wholeheartedly agree with that. Big yes re the manipulation. They are evil. Pure evil.
There are people in that cult who are battling serious anxiety and this s**t doesn't help.
They're narcissists to the bone.
And perhaps that partly why I tend to see them as believing this crap. Narcs really do tend to have delusions of grandeur. They seriously have this inflated sense of esteem. "I AM GOD!"
Very David Koresh.
"If you don't do what I tell you to God is going to punish you because God made me his one true servant, b**ches."
(I'm just asterisking the letters because I don't want to get in trouble but it feels ridiculous...)
think of it like this... (eta I'm not wanting to offend anyone with the following, it's just a matter of following how people reason things out)
Isn't it bizarre for people to really think that a deity incarnated himself as a human into the womb of a woman was born lived for 30 something years then had himself crucified on a piece of wood only so that he could forgive mankind for being exactly what he created them to be? and for said people to truly believe that they are the only ones who could ever possibly be forgiven if they worship said deity?
But people do. They believe it. And they also believe in any number of other things.
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Watched The Bunker Videos Again On JWSurvey
by JW_Rogue ini watched the bunker videos again and noticed something strange.
even though none of the characters had actually been disloyal to the org when commended for their loyalty they all say "it wasn't always that way".
it was always that way, none of them had actually sinned!
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See I noticed that the actors, namely Kevin, seemed like they were doing an SNL skit.
Kevin's whispery voice was very Dana Carvey and while I'm reasonably sure this is not a joke, I'm still waiting for someone to call it 'gotcha suckers' because the acting was so lousy. Which I'm not sure what that says for SNL. -
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Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?
by BlackSwan of Memphis inwasn't sure where to put this but .... .
so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?
the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.
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Crazyguy:
I think that's definitely a valid point, absolutely.
There are aspects of it this time that seem a bit on the darker side.
So, I do hope you're right.
And you know, you probably are.
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Are we sure that there aren't more 'compound'-ish structures?
by BlackSwan of Memphis inwasn't sure where to put this but .... .
so mr bsom and i got to talking and we got to wondering if there aren't other compound like buildings being structured, or if assembly halls have been built with greater living quarters?
the entirety of this situation is really beginning to shape up like the davidians or jim jones.
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Sparrowdown: Ya know, I don't know that the bunkers in any of the situations are really meant to protect anyone. More like don't let anyone out the doors. With the psychopath narc type cult leaders it's not about affection, protection etc. It's ego and well delusions of grandeur.
Millie: yeah, the basement thing. Funny a friend of mine just mentioned that. Truly I have vague memories of that. It'd be interesting to see what they had written about it.
EdenOne: Ya know I forgot about those places. And it is a reminder as Doubtfully Yours and others have pointed out essentially same ol song and dance.
My thing about what's going on is that the combination of the new light, the videos, and this new talk about the message changing, seems like they're ready for something.
I don't trust that they wouldn't do something along the lines of the kool aid. Figure that their policies have already shown such a disregard for their followers and their safety and sanity what would stop them really? Probably just wanting to have people in one place at one time. Which is why the videos probably piqued my attn. -
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Did anyone see news story on clickondetroit
by poopie init's about disfellowshipping clickondetroit.
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DY argh, right when I hit send on a response much earlier my computer decided to shut down, I thought my response went through so didn't think to check til now.
Ok, when I first read your response it came across like you were almost agreeing in a moral sense w the dingbat religion. I'm sorry for jumping to the wrong conclusion.
But I'd also just seen someone essentially say that Terrell just didn't want to be moral or something along those lines, so I'm guessing that's where it initiated.
Yes, creating reliable networks is important, I think it's getting easier to do that. After I watched the video I did a search to see what was local on fb and nothing popped up, so I threw a group together and was able to reach Terrell and some others around here. The conversations thus far have been good. I had to wonder if maybe there would be value in putting out perhaps flyers? How does one get the word out?
Then I thought of picketing... but not sure if I'd be ready to do that to my family and friends. Not now.
Once again, sorry for jumping.